| Somewhere between the Graveyard and the Ballroom, in a place defined by late seventies industrial Manchester and early eighties New York sunsets, at a point between the old and the new, they found their feet.Punk UK 1978, taking in influences from teutonic technotronicers Kraftwerk, powered by Wire and holding court in George Clinton's Funkadelic house of Parliament, A Certain Ratio took to the stage.Factory Records, a label set up by Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, and Anthony (H) Wilson.Donald Johnson joined as drummer after its release, completing the original line up with Simon Topping, Jez Kerr, Pete Terrell and Martin Moscrop.The band returned to the studio and completed a series of gigs around the country with labelmates Joy Division during late '79 and early 1980.Big Apple, New York City.ESG, along with a fledgling New Order and a little known support act by the name of Madonna.In the middle of this flurry of activity, the band checked into EARS studio, New Jersey, with legendary producer Martin Hannett at the controls.Hannett's mix settings before he'd had chance to get the album to tape.The album was eventually remixed and released in January 1981, proceeded by the single, Flight.Revolution Studios, in Cheadle Hulme.Martha Tilson, as Simon Topping retreated to the background in the band.Enter Andy Connell, a mean Rhodes player, whose funky clavi sound would once again lead a change in the sound of the band.After their return from America, the band toured the UK extensively.Unfortunately, it only skimmed the top forty.Denise Johnson) for its inclusion on the EP and album.The band had one last card up their sleeve.South American dance outfit by the name of 'The Beat Club'.Rob saw potential in the track, and set up Rob's Records with the intention of breaking the tune in the UK.They played at the Cities In The Park festival during August, in a bill that also featured Electronic, Happy Mondays, and De La Soul amongst many others.Funk, Latinesque instrumentals, and electronic fused pop.It also takes in the usual house and pop influences, but the album is an altogether mellower offering than most of its predecessors.After a triumphant gig at Sankey's Soap, the band began to lie low and maintain radio silence.DJs and musicians across the globe found them constantly referenced through the media.The film was launched at the Cannes Film Festival in 2002, and the band played an exclusive set at the launch party.Funk once again became the sound of the other city that never sleeps.Since 2003, bands such as The Rapture, LCD Soundsystem, Radio 4 have all drawn heavily on the legacy of A Certain Ratio.Interpol's Slow Hands definitely do do the du!The enduring appeal of ACR's back catalogue has been brought to a new audience.The group's longest serving members have been Martin Moscrop (guitar, trumpet) and Jeremy Kerr (bass, vocals).Another current member, Donald Johnson (drums, vocals), joined early to replace a drum machine.Coy), plus guitarist Peter Terrell, who left in 1982.The band's exploration of rhythm fusing funk, disco, punk and Latin has had a resurgence in the last few years and their influence can been heard in bands such as The Rapture and LCD Soundsystem.Although the band does not play full time, they continue writing, recording, and performing.They are featured in the film 24 Hour Party People where Tony Wilson (played by Steve Coogan) calls them 'Joy Division but better dressed'.Martin Moscrop was Musical Supervisor of 24 Hour Party People.Discography
The band have released the following albums:
FACT 16C The Graveyard and the Ballroom (1980)
FACT 35 To Each...This page was last modified 17:30, 28 November 2007.See Copyrights for details.Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player.This video has been added to your favorites.The video has been added to your playlist.Content of this nature is not necessarily prohibited on YouTube, however we will review this video and take action as appropriate.We can only process copyright complaints submitted by authorized parties in accordance with processes defined in law.There may be significant legal penalties for false notices.Please refer to our Help Center for more information and the form to submit.Change this to see only comments above a certain value.Muchos son los recuerdos que me traen.ACR isn't even in the same dimension as Joy Division...It's like comparing Robbie Williams to John Lennon!History has not been kind to acr, But without a doubt, it was acr that instigated the crossover to serious dance music in the uk.ACR's first 4 albums are as good as anything Joy Division or New Order ever did.With today's parade of depressive, whiny loser popstars JD may not seem that unique, but at the time they were completely original.That's why he used "quotes" knobhead!From Soul Jazz (UK):A Certain Ratio was one of ...From Soul Jazz (UK):A Certain Ratio was one of the first groups to sign to the legendary Factory Records in Manchester.Whilst many people credit New Order and The Happy Mondays as the groups who brought Dance music into the sound of Manchester (later Madchester!ACR who were there in the beginning.Soon after this Donald Johnson joined on drums.After this came "Shack Up".This single originally came out in Belgium, on a new Belgium subsiduary, Factory Benelux, and consequently was only available on import.This release became an underground dance record in New York (Billboard chart position 52!This would lead to their first gigs in New York at places like Danceteria and The Roxy.On their first gig in New York they were supported by a young Madonna!"ACR was the first UK band after Punk to record in America.This signified a shift in focus of many UK bands as they started to look towards American music and culture for inspiration.The album "To Each" was recorded in New Jersey in 1980.It was here that ACR came into closer contact with their influences.It was while in New York that ACR first came across new musical styles.The following day ACR brought Bongos, Whistles, Congas and a Cuica and didn't look back!"Gum", "Knife Slits Water" "Skipscada" are from this album.By the time their next album "I'd like To See You Again" was released, Factory Records had in a sense come round to ACR's musical philosophy.Funk of tracks like "Touch".Funk group Kalima, and this led to many ACR members also moonlighting in Kalima.Andy Connell would also later find worldwide success with his pop group Swing Out Sister!At this period the once mighty Factory Records was beginning to fall apart.After ACR recording one more record for Factory (Force), Factory closed under the weight of crippling costs from The Hacienda and New Order and Happy Mondays recording costs (The Mondays ran up a bill of a quarter of a million pounds in the Bahamas!After making your selection, copy and paste the embed code above.Get the latest Flash player.Content of this nature is not necessarily prohibited on YouTube, however we will review this video and take action as appropriate.Thank you for sharing your concerns.There may be significant legal penalties for false notices.Please refer to our Help Center for more information and the complete instructions.Please refer to our Help Center for more information and the form to submit.One of those bands that not many have heard of, and you just can't understand why.Would you like to comment?The code changes based on your selection.Initially a intense, drummerless quartet influenced by Kraftwerk and Wire, the band gain a manager in Tony Wilson.Sleeve carries four photos of the corpse of comedian Lenny Bruce.August 1979:
Donald Johnson joins as drummer.Funkadelic fan, he transforms the band's sound.ACR now demand that you take a chance and dance.The following month they cut their first BBC John Peel session.December 1979:
Band support Talking Heads at the Electric Ballroom, London."He was always asking us what sort of stuff we were listening to.So we told him about George Clinton, Funkadelic and Chick Corea" (Moscrop).At the Moonlight Club in April: "ACR's confidence has increased in proportion to their ability, a fact perhaps underlined by sensible Simon Topping's present willingness to dance about like Jerry Lewis auditioning for the Afrika Korps, what with his sombre uniform, goggles and cap...The Ballroom (Fact 16), a limited edition cassette package featuring seven vibrant studio demos, and seven live cuts from the Talking Heads support.April 1980:
BBC live 'In Concert' broadcast.Plans for Grace Jones to record cover of And Then Again come to nothing.September 1980:
ACR undertake short North American tour supporting New Order, then still a three piece.The guest vocalist at the gig is Martha Tilson, who returns to England with the band.After an American engineer accidently clears the mix settings, the album is remixed in Manchester in January 1981.No one is entirely happy with the result.October 1980:
Fac 22 released.July 1981:
BBC John Peel Session.September 1981:
Projected 2 hour video Below the Canal (Fact 38) scheduled for release, but later shelved.November 1981:
Fac 52 released.Band promote forthcoming Sextet album with gig at North London Poly with 23 Skidoo.January 1982:
Sextet released to rave reviews.Eight minimalist latino dance sketches, but fewer proper songs, with Cameo cited as a major influence.July 1982:
Third album trailed by 12" remix of Guess Who on Factory Benelux (Fbn 17).September 1982:
Knife Slits Water released on 7" and 12" (Fac 62).October 1982:
Fact 65 released.October 1982:
Terrell departs to travel in India.December 1982:
John Peel session.March 1983:
Topping departs, and relocates to New York.July 1983:
Band release overly commercial single I Need Someone Tonight (Fac 72), backed by a cover of Stevie Wonder's Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing."We were quite successful at one stage, but we went downhill from there.Factory Benelux, Brazilia (Fbn 32), appears soon after.Jazz and latin leanings now funnelled into Kalima, ACR honing a harder edge.August 1985:
US tour with New Order.Tapes later result in excellent Live In America album (DoJo).January 1986:
ACR gig intensively, supported by release of singles compilation album The Old And the New (Fact 135).August 1986:
Solid fourth studio album Force (Fact 166) recorded and mixed at Yellow 2 Studios, Manchester.Single Mickey Way (Fac 168) released in September.November 1986:
Fact 166 released to good reviews.Connell leaves at same time to concentrate in SOS.Factory audience move on.Sextet (LP, Album)
Virgin France S.I'd Like To See You Again (LP)
Virgin France S.Factory Outing (VHS)
Back To The Start, Sho...Factory Outing (Beta)
Back To The Start, Sho...Factory Outing (VHS)
Back To The Start, Sho...Factory Benelux Greatest Hits (LP)
Guess Who?Indie Top 20 Volume I (Cass)
Mickey Way (The Candy ...Indie Top 20 CD88 (CD)
Mickey Way (The Candy ...The LP (2xLP)
Mickey Way (The Candy ...The Tape (Cass)
Mickey Way (The Candy ...Underground Dance Compilation (12", Promo)
Won't Stop Loving You ...Un Printemps 90 (CD)
Good Together
Virgin France S.CD + Box)
All Night Party, Fligh...LP, Box)
All Night Party, Fligh...Cass + Box)
All Night Party, Fligh...Brazilification (3xLP)
Samba 123 (Fila Brazil...In The Beginning There Was Rhythm (CD)
Shack Up, Knife Slits ...Leigh Festival (2xCD, Album)
Faceless, I Feel, All ...Each'), Skipscada, Knife Slits Water (from 'Sextet')...Soul Jazz Records wrote New Order might be the first to push this kind of thing to international stardom but while they were operating as Joy Division, ACR were there light years before....Was the above review useful to you?Add Release: Click this button to add a release to this artist's discography.Help
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Version 3.Additional Notes:
Limited edition of 5000, 1000 of which have sticker saying 'ltd edition on poor quality vinyl'.Probably an odd pressing.Additional Notes:
Also allocated an Of Factory New York catalogue number (OFNY 2).Includes photo and ACR envelope with biography.Additional Notes:
Apparently different recordings to those on Force.Remixed by Stuart Bruce
*** Apparently this rerelease exists, but need to confirm contents.Click here to see a picture of 12ROB5R.Additional Notes:
Featuring Denise Johnson.First 400 copies in orange pouch with insert.Later copies in
blue, green, brown, red, and grey pouches.All titles on this side recorded live by Jeff Hooper and Tony
Wilson at The Electric Ballroom, London, October 26, 1979.Included as bonus 12" with LP rerelease on Soul Jazz label.Refer also Sir Horatio 12".Click here to see another picture of To Each...The New, packaged
in a unique?Additional Notes:
All tracks recorded live in America 1985.CS: UK 1992 (Robs Records ??DJ release with tracks at louder volume.Limited edition of 1000
in plain white gatefold sleeve with sticker.Moist) on the tape, and space exists on side 2 for it, although
a copy with it included is yet to be confirmed.Additional Notes:
Contains 1 track from each Factory album.Additional Notes:
Limited to 1000 copies only.And Then Again
?Additional Notes:
Recorded on tour in Holland on 26 October 1980.CD includes detailed sleevenotes by Larry Cassidy of Section 25.Additional Notes:
Recorded live at the Rob Gretton Memorial Concert, May 2004.Additional Notes:
Remixed by Jean Marie Salun.Sleeve issued with paper sash, known as an 'obi'.Issued in a special wrapper.Additional Notes:
A compilation of the work of Martin Hannett, with liner notes by C.Their Eyes"
Part of the FACT 400 package, or available separately.French issue for Palatine release, in cardboard
brown sleeve with blue lettering."Click here to see a larger picture of Too Young to Know..."Too Young To Know, Too Wild To Care (The Factory Story Pt."Click here to see a larger picture of Different Colours......"Different Colours, Different Shades (The Factory Story Pt.Additional Notes:
Released to promote the In the Beginning...Thailand Sunsets: The Sunset Series Vol.Additional Notes:
Never completed.September 1981':
2 Hours.Back to the Start', 'Crippled Child', TV
stuff from Manchester and Milan, M.Additional Notes:
Live performance.Additional Notes:
All tracks live at The Hacienda Club, Manchester.Came free with initial copies of the Palatine boxed set bought from HMV.Contents:
VHS: CA 1992 (Polygram ???Additional Notes:
A 27 minute documentary featuring various Factory artists, Jeremy Kerr and
Martin Moscrop.First broadcast 26 January 1992 on MTV's '120 Minutes', has been shown on
MTV Europe several times.HMV stores with the
'Palatine' set.It's basically the artwork from the UK Palatine tape, with no FAC
number on it anywhere.The contents of the tape are indeed the MTV program.At the very beginning of the tape there's a static shot of a FAC 339 catalog
number as part of an artsy image of sorts.Additional Notes:
"ACR track is accompanied by some footage of the band in a smallish room playing
percussion, and also some footage of Moss Side in Manchester which
looks as though it was shot from a moving vehicle.Hearts, Selecter, A Certain Ratio and Johnny G, plus interview
footage.An acid house track with samples from Robocop.TWENTYFOURHOURS: Imagine a Feeling???Contents:
CDS: UK 2001 (Urbanite.Additional Notes:
A Jeremy (Jez) Kerr project
Purchase and download complete album and artwork from www.TWENTYFOURHOURS: New York Days???Contents:
CDS: UK 2002 (Urbanite.Philipson, White (Wendys), Renton, McArthur, Connell and Johnny Marr.Purchase and download complete album and artwork from www.Fits, Crawling Chaos, Lori and the Chameleons,
A Certain Ratio, The Teardrop Explodes, and Joy Division.Additional Notes:
ACR material used as soundtrack component.Before the concert was cancelled.Certain Ratio, Section 25 and The Names.One poster states: FAC 46.The Bluecoat, Friday 26th June, 8p.Section 25, A Certain Ratio, New Order, Cabaret Voltaire, etc.Shack Up', 'Confusion', and 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'.Mex, celebrating 10 years of Punk, organised by Factory.New Order, The Fall, Cabaret Voltaire, Pete Shelley, The Worst,
and Wayne Fontana.Cath Carroll, Linder, Richard Boone, Tony
Wilson, Paul Morley, and others, and numerous other posters."Are you sure you want to block this user?Somewhere between the Graveyard and the Ballroom, in a place defined by late seventies industrial Manchester and early eighties New York sunsets, at a point between the old and the new, they found their feet.Punk UK 1978, taking in influences from teutonic technotronicers Kraftwerk, powered by Wire and holding court in George Clinton's Funkadelic house of Parliament, A Certain Ratio took to the stage.The Thin Boys" through Factory Records, a label set up by Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, and Anthony (H) Wilson.Donald Johnson joined as drummer after its release, completing the original line up with Simon Topping, Jez Kerr, Pete Terrell and Martin Moscrop.Romantic Mancunians love to ponder the similarities between the two cities, the skyline over Hulme, the great canals running through the cities (born from their mutual industrial heritage), the fantastic nightlife.New York, but it looks good in print.ESG, along with a fledgling New Order and a little known support act by the name of Madonna.Hannett's mix settings before he'd had chance to get the album to tape.The album was eventually remixed and released in January 1981, proceeded by the single, Flight.Immediately after the release of "To Each..."Martha Tilson, as Simon Topping retreated to the background in the band.By the time of its release in January 1982, "Sextet" was receiving ecstatic reviews from the press.If "Sextet" pointed to more vocal, almost pop tendencies within the ACR artillery, their subsequent album release "I'd Like To See You Again" saw the band march into much deeper territory, based upon stripped down funk and influenced by a more electronic brand of dance music.Simon 'Dream' Topping departed, and this was the beginning a dark period for the band.Tony had previously roadied for the band)."Wild Party", signalling a brilliant return to form.Thank you A Certain Ratio for the add !Ope yad a good newyear are kid.WE ARE LOOKING FOR SHOWS IN 2008 !!!Lille (Fr)Et on cherche aussi des dates partout !!!!NEW 7 inch 2 unreleased songs !!!!FREE UK SHIPPING SPECIAL OFFER!!Come check us out and browse around...WE BACK FOR 8TH JAN 2008Check out the All fmBIGGA BREAKFAST SHOW...Hello a Certain Ratio,I wish you all the best for the future and a happy new year 2008!We can't find it in the shops.Thank you for your comment.Available on Record Stores _Released on 12" Vinyl.L'Eliana, near Valencia(Spain) in...It was outdoors, in winter, I think.Great concert, do you remember any of it?The Hacienda Returns To Sankeys!!!!!Advance tickets available www.Eastern Bloc RecordsTickets for this event are likley to sell out.To avoid dissapointment we advise you to book early.Madchester, Boxing Day Bash, Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh.Do you wish to continue your form submission?" |
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